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Lunchtime Poll: The Format War [Nov. 20th, 2006|12:15 pm]
Nicodemus
Having read a number of articles recently on HD-DVD, Blu-Ray, and the PS3, I present:

Poll #871982 The Format War Poll

I, personally, plan to...

Buy a PS3/Blu-Ray player
3(5.3%)
Buy an HD-DVD player/Xbox360 add-on
2(3.5%)
Wait until one format gets popular & cheap
13(22.8%)
Buy both, in one form or another
1(1.8%)
Stick with DVD for the foreseeable future
32(56.1%)
Continue to not watch a lot of movies and thus be unaffected by this
6(10.5%)

In terms of the general public, I expect...

HD-DVD to win due to technical superiority and financial backing
6(10.2%)
Blu-Ray to win due to technical superiority and financial backing
0(0.0%)
Blu-Ray to win, in part due to the PS3 jump-starting the market
4(6.8%)
Neither to win in the short term, as buyers will be leery of a format war
12(20.3%)
Both to win in the short term, as combo players become available
5(8.5%)
Neither to supplant DVD, as most consumers are satisfied with it
12(20.3%)
Electronic formats will dominate as soon as Apple gets their iTV figured out
6(10.2%)
The point to be moot, as invading space weasels will steal all of our shiny discs
14(23.7%)
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[User Picture]From: wordweaverlynn
2006-11-20 08:23 pm (UTC)
Every day when I read the news, I pray for the invading space weasels to come soon. So far it hasn't happened, so I'll stick with Apple.
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[User Picture]From: marko_the_rat
2006-11-20 08:43 pm (UTC)
I wish I could have chosen more than one answer for the second one, because you've got a good point about electronic formats. I'm not much interested in either format, only having an SD television, but I admit it will be hard to go past
Ratatouille
in Blu-Ray.
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[User Picture]From: nicodemusrat
2006-11-20 08:50 pm (UTC)
I hear ya on the Ratatouille temptation. :D

I usually set polls up with radio buttons just to force people to choose the "best" of their answers. Then I insert an answer containing the word "weasel" just to mess with things.
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[User Picture]From: nicodemusrat
2006-11-20 09:42 pm (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: kit_ping
2006-11-20 09:22 pm (UTC)
Does it count as having a format opinion when I only want the PS3 to play games on?
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[User Picture]From: twopiearr
2006-11-20 09:56 pm (UTC)
yes, indirectly - if you already have a PS3, you're more likely to buy a Blu-Ray movie than an HD-DVD movie unless the title in question is a) not avaiable on Blu-Ray and b) so compelling that you're willing to invest in a seperate device just to play it. So it becomes a vote for Blu-Ray by default unless something really, really special comes along.
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[User Picture]From: kit_ping
2006-11-20 10:04 pm (UTC)
In all honesty, I don't have a TV good enough to view either. It's going to be DVD additions to my viewing collection for a while, mysterious multi-million dollar inheritances notwithstanding. :)
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[User Picture]From: twopiearr
2006-11-20 10:08 pm (UTC)
Likewise, for the foreseeable future. The point is, when you finally DO drop a massive amount of money on a TV that's good enough, are you more likely to buy in the format you can already play, or make yet ANOTHER hardware investment just to play a movie?
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[User Picture]From: kit_ping
2006-11-20 10:16 pm (UTC)
Given the rate at which I (don't) make money, one will be market-dominant by then! Decision handled. :)

Also, it depends on if one or the other (Sony or... I forget who's backing HD-DVD) have mangaged to well and truly piss me off. Several hundred dollars up front to not have to keep giving funds to an abusive company is SOP in my world.
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[User Picture]From: twopiearr
2006-11-20 09:53 pm (UTC)

Since you asked...

at this stage of the game, blu-ray/hd-dvd is a niche format war. only serious videophiles are going to have an opinion as to which is superior - unlike the difference between, say, VHS and Beta or cassette and CD, you have to look really, really, REALLY hard to see an appreciable quality difference between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray, unless you have a high-end enough setup that you could have bankrolled a day or two of the Iraq war rather than obtain it.

My belief is that, ultimately, the market will settle on the format for which most of the content they care about is made in. granted that i don't have the precise data i'd like in front of me, but extrapolating from what I know performs well on PPV and from a limited layman's knowledge of DVD sales, i'd guess the sales in terms of popularty breaks down like this:

FIRST: new releases, while they're new
SECOND: porn
THIRD: kids' stuff
FOURTH...N: everything else

Porn is available in both formats off the bat, and more studios support Blu-Ray than HD-DVD. If my assumptions above are correct, I therefore give the edge to Blu-Ray from a sheer numbers game alone. But i think it's too early to call at this point.
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[User Picture]From: twopiearr
2006-11-20 09:54 pm (UTC)

And before anyone calls me on it:

The problem with the conclusion I reach above is that new releases only dominate in the first 4 weeks after they hit DVD, roughly, while kids' stuff has a much more measurable long tail effect. Which is why I ultimately rate it too close to call.
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[User Picture]From: ankhorite
2006-11-23 06:54 am (UTC)

Re: Since you asked...

Oooh! Cool icon! Oooh!
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[User Picture]From: twopiearr
2006-11-23 07:36 am (UTC)

Re: Since you asked...

thank you - took the photos maself :)
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[User Picture]From: ankhorite
2006-11-23 07:55 am (UTC)

Re: Since you asked...

You Are TOO Cool. It's great. :)
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[User Picture]From: tugrik
2006-11-20 10:00 pm (UTC)
I bought an HDDVD for the x360 as it was cheap. After watching two HDDVD movies I gotta say -- it IS all that and a bag of chips, yes. I hope bluray will be similar.

However, I can also see that the average TV watcher who isn't geeking on best-video-possible will totally not get-it and not-care... as most likely they should. So both formats are going to struggle for a long time yet, just as SACD and DVDA have in the audio world.
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[User Picture]From: loranskunky
2006-11-21 02:08 am (UTC)
Yes it was.

No Blue-Ray for me either, especially right now sense the format just came out. I'll wait to see which format wins out and even then, I doubt I'll get either system unless it comes with the game system I purchase (such as a PS3 in a year from now).
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[User Picture]From: renniefox
2006-11-20 10:21 pm (UTC)
there's not point to go for new formats now as hidef tvs are still expensive, and my 6-years-old 13" suits my tv craving needs just fine.

mmm... space weasels...
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[User Picture]From: timduru
2006-11-21 09:21 am (UTC)
You forgot the option:
"I plan to create my own super HD-DVD format, because the footage from one convention won't even fit on one HD-DVD" ;))
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