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Predictions from the Past [Jul. 20th, 2007|11:12 am]
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The seventh and allegedly final Harry Potter book is almost here! I thought I'd take this opportunity to pull up the predictions I made on LJ almost two years ago when I'd just finished reading book six.

Now, bear in mind that I haven't even had a chance to reread book six since then. If you want to debate over details and hints, that's cool but don't expect me to cite things. :)

There's no book seven spoilers here (except for one note from JK's public comments) since I haven't seen any advance info on it other than size (about 760 pages) and weight (about 1.8 pounds).


(New notes are in italics)

Guess: Dudley Dursley, and possibly Petunia Dursley, will be reconciled with Harry. If it's Dudley, he will have some hidden power or magical connection. They will provide a key piece of information or timely assitance to aid Harry.

My wife tells me that JK's said not to expect anything from Dudley or much from the rest of the Dursleys. I'd still like to see Petunia come around. I'll predict we'll at least get a scene where Petunia's past (and relation with Dumbledore) is resolved.

Guess: Grawp will take action at some pivotal moment, dimly aware of what he's doing. The dark forces will not expect this because they don't consider him an actor, being non-human.

We saw Grawp mentioned periodically throughout this book though he had no bearing on the story. Thus, I expect him to be (momentarily) significant in the final book. I'll go on a hunch and say that he will witness some confrontation and step in against a dark wizard he thinks is fighting underhanded or to step in and save Harry or Hermione during some moment of physical peril (the proverbial cliff-hanger).

Guess: Dumbledore died at the end of book six. But he will return, in a different form, to guide Harry in book seven.

I'm told there's some discussion about whether he actually really truly died. I think he did. But, following the structure of the myth, he will still aid Harry in a time of need. Since we're in a magical world and we've seen numerous ways to interact with dead characters, I think his return will be more than just Harry recalling sage advice.

If I had to pick something, I'd guess a painting. Kit's leaning towards Fawkes, which I don't really consider that "Dumbledore" but that doesn't mean it won't happen, too.

Guess: Harry will kill Voldemort. Snape, having evaded Harry, will be there to help at the critical moment and finally prove that he is on the side of good.

Voldemort dies would seem to be a "Duh!" given everything we've seen so far. Snape is really in a bad spot at the end of book six. I think he killed Dumbledore on his orders (just as Dumbledore made Harry swear to follow his commands, no matter how extreme) and will use this to get as close as possible to Voldemort. Harry will think he's fighting both of them.

Snape will backstab Voldemort at a key moment. But will Snape die in the process? I could see it working either way. Since these are supposed to be predictions, I'll pick "no, but it'll be close."

Miscellaneous:

Too Cool To Happen: Harry discovers that he is one of the unknown Horcruxes used by Voldemort. He kills himself at the same time that he kills Voldemort.

Weasley's Wizard Wheezes got a lot of mention in book six. (From genhusky's comments) They and their products will be leveraged in book seven's battles.

Will Luna make any unique contribution to the final confrontation? Perhaps some information or contacts? (From twopiearr) Neville will trust her and act on her information at a key moment.

Was it just me or was Trelawny left hanging in book six? Last time I recall her being mentioned, Harry had left her in the 7th floor hallway. Odd for Rowling to not give some mention at the end. (Was she at the funeral?)

I'm not looking for this to be a key point, I'd just like to see some sort of conclusion for her. (kai_ta_loipa posited that the Death Eaters might've kidnapped her in the confusion. Interesting idea, though I don't know that JK will go that direction.)
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[User Picture]From: octavius_rodens
2007-07-20 06:58 pm (UTC)
*reads about Horcuxes*

Voldemort's a lich? Wow. Harry's screwed.
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[User Picture]From: drfgeek
2007-07-20 07:10 pm (UTC)
Unless Harry *deus ex machina* gets a +10 vopal blade! (Hey look, it's the plot of every book!)
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[User Picture]From: nicodemusrat
2007-07-20 07:34 pm (UTC)
Yup, he's basically a lich, which is one of the reasons he's been so dang hard to kill through all this. But Harry has his name on the cover, so he's equally hard to kill. :)
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[User Picture]From: ysengrin
2007-07-20 07:31 pm (UTC)
If I had to pick something, I'd guess a painting.

A new painting of Dumbledore was already up in the Headmaster's office at the end of book six - he was sleeping in it.
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[User Picture]From: nicodemusrat
2007-07-20 07:35 pm (UTC)
The question is whether the painting will offer advice to Harry when he really needs it in the final book. I think so.
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[User Picture]From: frysco
2007-07-20 08:06 pm (UTC)
While there's just the one portrait in the headmaster's office, there are other pictures of Dumbledore around. There's been theories relating to the Chocolate Frog collectible cards, and how Dumbledore once was quoted as saying that they (the ministry) could do anything to him, but emplored them not to take him off those cards.
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[User Picture]From: nicodemusrat
2007-07-20 08:59 pm (UTC)
Oooh, interesting observation...
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[User Picture]From: frysco
2007-07-20 09:49 pm (UTC)
Not an original one, though. I just listen to various Podcasts and theories on them :>
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[User Picture]From: frysco
2007-07-20 08:12 pm (UTC)
We saw Grawp mentioned periodically throughout this book though he had no bearing on the story. Thus, I expect him to be (momentarily) significant in the final book. I'll go on a hunch and say that he will witness some confrontation and step in against a dark wizard he thinks is fighting underhanded or to step in and save Harry or Hermione during some moment of physical peril (the proverbial cliff-hanger).

Grawp really hasn't had a lot of purpose so far, other than causing the Centaurs in book 5 to get a bit more uppity, and saving Harry and Hermione from them after they cart off Umbridge. In book 6, his role was so minor and at the end. There hasn't been too much to his character yet, so... perhaps.
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[User Picture]From: nicodemusrat
2007-07-20 08:59 pm (UTC)
Grawp was involved in a couple of events but they were things that she could've accomplished plot-wise without introducing an entirely new (and unusual) character. Yeah, we'll have to see.
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[User Picture]From: kit_ping
2007-07-20 08:28 pm (UTC)
Correction: The Dursleys, Petunia in particular, may yet have significant action. What J.K. said was that they don't have any magic.

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[User Picture]From: nicodemusrat
2007-07-20 09:00 pm (UTC)
I thought she said (or I thought you said she said) that Dudley specifically wasn't going to turn around and be significant. He was just a bully.
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[User Picture]From: marko_the_rat
2007-07-20 11:43 pm (UTC)
My very quick and potted predictions before I go off to get the book:

Snape will be completely vindicated and we'll see that his killing of Dumbledore was just part of Dumbledore's plan. Snape was the only one he trusted enough.

Dumbledore will come back to life. (I'm taking the phoenix symbolism at the funeral literally.) So will Sirius Black. (This one's a no-brainer because we never actually saw him die.)

Wormtail will turn at a vital moment and save or help Harry. He will probably die for his efforts. (Ristin predicts that Wormtail will abandon Voldemort at a critical junction because he will encounter something that scares him more than the Dark Lord, thus illustrating that what unites Voldemort's followers is only fear, but Dumbledore's followers are united by something stronger.)

I hope Hermione and Ron will get together in the last book.
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[User Picture]From: wordweaverlynn
2007-07-21 02:01 am (UTC)
I think Dumbledore's death is a way to give Harry a different kind of link into the afterworld. After all, Voldemort is dead. They can meet on ground unavailable to other characters. (Assuming that a lich in Potterdom is like the ones I grew up with.)

Snape is on the side of good.

Draco Malfoy may not precisely redeem himself, but he'll at least choose good, though possibly for snobbish reasons or in a snobbish way.

I suspect Hermione and Ron may need to protect a newborn child or a pregnancy from Voldemort -- IOW, that Harry's own birth/childhood history may be repeated. Harry may step into Sirius Black's role in the new kid's life.

All this is based on having read the first one and a half books and seen a bit more of the movie, plus random factoids picked up here and there. Also, I announced in 1977 that Darth Vader was really Luke's father. Not news now, exactly, but quite a prediction for an 18-year-old.
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