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You say #, I say #, let's call the whole symbol off. [Jan. 28th, 2005|01:07 pm]
Nicodemus
Poll #426914 Typographigeekitude

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"Number sign"
15(20.0%)
"No" / "Num"
1(1.3%)
"Pound sign"
37(49.3%)
"Sharp"
5(6.7%)
"Hash"
8(10.7%)
"Octothorpe"
6(8.0%)
"Comment"
1(1.3%)
"Huh?"
1(1.3%)
"Are you playing Xs or Os?"
1(1.3%)
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[User Picture]From: rummy_raccoon
2005-01-28 01:53 pm (UTC)
o.0 what sort of hash?
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[User Picture]From: nicodemusrat
2005-01-28 02:00 pm (UTC)
Well, that's what makes the poll interesting! :)
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[User Picture]From: twopiearr
2005-01-28 01:24 pm (UTC)
Technically "pound", not "pound sign", but...details.
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[User Picture]From: nicodemusrat
2005-01-28 01:56 pm (UTC)
Depends who you ask. I should've probably left "sign" out of all poll answers, just to simplify things.
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[User Picture]From: nicodemusrat
2005-01-28 02:02 pm (UTC)
As another counterpoint, the Unicode standard says "pound sign" refers to the currency symbol.

This whole question of what is it properly called ("octothorpe" seems to be the popular "technical" name even though it's apparently a modern term) is what inspired the poll in the first place. :)
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[User Picture]From: dour
2005-01-28 03:13 pm (UTC)
The officially specified name for the key on a phone pad, by the way, is "square." :D
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[User Picture]From: foxcoon
2005-01-29 09:38 am (UTC)
I've never heard anyone in the technical arena use the word "octothorpe."
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[User Picture]From: happyjenn97
2005-01-28 01:48 pm (UTC)

None of the above?

"Order #12345" = "Order number 12345"

"Enter your password followed by the pound sign" = "xxxxxx#"
Voice mail's about the only time I would ever call it a "pound sign."
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[User Picture]From: vakkotaur
2005-01-28 01:52 pm (UTC)

Re: None of the above?

Then are those of us who really got started into computers on Apple ][ series machines where PR#6 was the standard way of rebooting. PR#6 was pronounced "P R pound 6" every time I heard it.

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[User Picture]From: nicodemusrat
2005-01-28 01:58 pm (UTC)

Re: None of the above?

Really? I always heard "P R Num Six". I guess it's a regionalism.
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[User Picture]From: dour
2005-01-28 02:59 pm (UTC)

Re: None of the above?

When I was very young and the only use of the symbol I knew was from a Star Trek game we had, I once told my dad that I was going to put the screen in 80-column mode by typing P R Photon Torpedo 3.
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[User Picture]From: dour
2005-01-28 02:59 pm (UTC)

Re: None of the above?

(...or was it PR#4? Been a while...)
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[User Picture]From: vakkotaur
2005-01-28 03:21 pm (UTC)

Re: None of the above?

The 80-column mode on the //e was started with PR#3. The 80-column card was in an auxiliary slot that used at least some of slot 3's signals along with whatever else it needed that was not provided by the standard slot 3.

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[User Picture]From: dour
2005-01-28 03:35 pm (UTC)

Re: None of the above?

Ahh, yes, I remember now... heh, the geek's all draining out of me. I was actually sitting there thinking, "Port number... I know it's port number..." but I couldn't figure out why, because nowadays my brain insists that cards go in slots.

I've still got a //c (with a megabyte of RAM! ask me how! I want my geek points back!) sitting in a closet somewhere. Needs to have one pin on the RCA monitor jack re-soldered. Half tempted to do that and give myself a damn refresher course already. *grins*
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[User Picture]From: vakkotaur
2005-01-28 04:54 pm (UTC)

Ask me how!

Okkay, how?

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[User Picture]From: dour
2005-01-28 06:59 pm (UTC)

Re: Ask me how!

Tee-hee! Okay, if you were an Apple II buff into the late 80s, you'll probably remember a company called Applied Engineering. They were the third party hardware company.

Now, the Apple //c is of course rather difficult to expand, being "portable" and all. But they came up with a way. First, void your warranty! Pop open the case. Move the keyboard out of the way. Remove the CPU. Then, insert their expansion card—carefully designed to fit around the other components in the case—into the CPU socket, and put the CPU in the additional socket on top of the card.

I've only got the 1MB plus sytem clock version, but you could expand up to 3MB and an optional Z80 processor for CP/M.

ROM on the card changed the 64/128 bank toggle address to a numerical register, technically allowing 256 64k banks. There was RAM disk software available for ProDOS and Pascal, and a patch to allow Appleworks to actually use the extra RAM for documents.

Searching Google for the name of that damn card (still haven't found it), I'm seeing that apparently Apple thought this was a really good idea, because later versions of the //c had an actual RAM expansion port, and similar firmware modifications. Heh! Funny, I've never run into anyone who's mentioned that.
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[User Picture]From: 3catsjackson
2005-01-28 02:19 pm (UTC)

Re: None of the above?

Hmm, I always heard/said it as "P R number 6".
As opposed to "You are number six".
Or "P R N D 2 1".
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[User Picture]From: vakkotaur
2005-01-28 02:49 pm (UTC)

Re: None of the above?

P R N D 2 1 is a bit recent. Well, not all that old, anyway. I recall it being P R N D L once upon a time. An episode of Green Acres had Eva Gabor's clueless character call it the control the "Pernandle." Some syndicated repeat was seen by my father and from then on it was part of our family vocabulary which had (and has) a few jokes and eccentricities.

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[User Picture]From: polrbear
2005-01-28 01:51 pm (UTC)
I have long thought it odd that even though it is most commonly used as a number sign today most people recognize what I mean when I say pound even if they call it something else. I wonder how long it has been since anyone actually used it as a pound sign.

I have always called it pound. I think I caught it from one of my teachers in my early years.
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[User Picture]From: dour
2005-01-28 03:02 pm (UTC)
You can still see it used for pounds at farmer's markets and the like.
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[User Picture]From: redstorm
2005-01-28 02:12 pm (UTC)
It's the hash sign! Hash!
Not the pound ... gee, that got me so confused in the states. When you're currency is the pound, and you weigh people in stone, getting told to press the pound sign on a phone is a task unto itself ....
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[User Picture]From: polrbear
2005-01-28 03:27 pm (UTC)
What is the conversion for stone?
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[User Picture]From: thump
2005-01-28 02:51 pm (UTC)
Pound
sans sign
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[User Picture]From: kit_ping
2005-01-28 03:24 pm (UTC)
B # in music!

Ahahahaha!

*wanders away to put away groceries, muttering old bad music jokes under her breath*
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[User Picture]From: griffinwolf
2005-01-28 05:36 pm (UTC)
OOoo, I didn't even think of it in music. Probably because it needs to be superscript there.

Gah, I HATE having the # referred to as 'pound'. Whether in weights or on the phone. Heck, using #'s in reference to the weight 'pound' ranks up there on my geek pet peeves as using pounds to reference something's mass (and a mass and a weight are NOT the same thing).
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[User Picture]From: rubbertexcooper
2005-01-28 06:33 pm (UTC)
I call it the waffle pattern symbol sometimes. I cant tell you how many times Ive broke the phone when a recording says "Please enter such and such number, then hit the pound sign." *WHAM!" "Mommy! The phone got busted again!"

Perhaps Im too literal? o.o *Frolics off to the kitchen with the strangest craving for WAFFLES!*
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[User Picture]From: brutal_deluxe
2005-01-28 09:42 pm (UTC)
£ = pound
# = hash

number <> hash.

but sometimes

hash = number.

And IIRC (I'm not too hot on obsolete, illogical units of measurement) theres 14 pounds in a stone.
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[User Picture]From: brigus
2005-01-29 02:59 pm (UTC)
"Are you playing Xs or Os?"

Don't you mean "Naughts and Crosses"?

I had a girlfriend who was from India who called it that. She also referred to the pound sign as "hash", which I think makes the most sense, but I answered "pound sign" for your poll, since that's what it's always been for me, with "number sign" as a close second.
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